No MAC version yet. Raw developing is not a problem whether you are using the newest stable open software or older parts. You are being mislead. Current open software is not more complex to use or install. It's simply a matter of numerous ways to do the job at hand.
What's your pleasure? That's a good thing and this much larger menu is easily tamed by a simple Internet search for recommendations. Start with Linuxmint. The one with the Mate environment. You can set the taskbar to be one at the bottom or not. You'd simply check off Gimp and parts you want installed.
Stable version. Automatic upgrades. It matters. Just check linuxmint for instructions. Though the newest systems may have to work around Microsoft BS. The question is are you going to let things like that stop you? Of course decent and fully working devices are required. It's amazing most any device works. Apple has like one hardware set to get right. Something like LinuxMint works on thousands and does it well. Think about that. Glass is massively a bit more than half full.
Soon you will have stable Android alternatives too! And that's sorely needed if you've been keeping up with security news. IOS i-phones fairing no better. KDE is even coming to phones. Test systems now. But it won't be long. They work flawlessly together, and at a small fraction of buying Adobe products. I also have Phase One's Capture One 11 beside a few other editors , I just find Capture One far from being intuitive, and a very difficult photo editor to learn.
So I don't use it anymore, although I'm aware some others have different experiences with it. In the past, my attempts to use GIMP ended up with frustration and disappointment. I'll try to give the new version another attempt in a few months after they fix the reported bugs. I'll be curious to see how fast they fix the RAW problem, not being able to send raw files to Darktable or RawTherapee. I don't expect much of them in terms of speed since the developers are volunteers, and it's a free product.
That's why I said "in a few months". Perhaps just Rawtherapee then. I had seen those comments. And I have my own problems with Rawtherapee, which stop me from even using any version of RT 5 after the first stable release, so can't test RT 5.
As far as G'MIC is concerned, compatibility with 2. So I suppose a 2. I might try building it for my Linux box myself if I get inpatient personally and have a bit of spare time during the weekend. Get the stable version. Automatic upgrading systems will get there automatically. Never old. Also; if you have never tried an open OS then everything is in it's repository pool.
In other words everything you pick to install just automatically and comprehensively system wide upgrades. You don't normally go hunting odd and unsecured web sites for any programs. You already have them compiled for you. I suggest starting with www. Choices are good not bad.
And you can do this along side whatever you have; not in place of it. Gimp is quite intuitive once you've unlearned photoshop. Performance and adjustment layers are a bit lacking but no biggie. GIMP is certainly not intuitive. And Photoshop is about the worst standard of intuitiveness that I can imagine.
On what planet is that intuitive? I would not expect to find black and white conversion under "filters". The first place would be under "colors", since I want to manipulate, well, colors. What's with all this nonsense about not being able to open NEF files? It's a photo editor, for goodness sakes, not a RAW processor. If you need the convenience or speedy workflow of being able to open RAW files in a photo editor, then pay up.
Some have a dedicated Develop module and some don't, but there are very few that simply refuse to open a raw file. You can't even browse raw files in GIMP, even with the codec installed. Instead of having it's own capability, GIMP 2. But that is broken. Sure, but photo editing and RAW files are distinct matters, and supporting RAW files is an ongoing and non-trivial business.
That's why you'll find that RAW support is the sort of thing you should be paying for. It's the opposite in my experience.
There are many excellent free and open-source tools for RAW developing, including core raw developers that can be added into any program. Decent free photo editors, on the other hand, are few and far between. I hesitate to update since the "old" gimp does everything I need. Even photoshop doesn't open raw files, you need to pass trough a plugin called camera raw.
Once you pass to photoshop it gets transformed to a tiff. As far as I know a plugin can be added to gimp too and it will behave the same way, but still I don't know why anyone in would want to torture himself with a workflow or really the lack of on which you open a picture at a time and for each you have to move from a raw developer plugin to the final program where you do half of the work and then save You can open from the file manager or in Gimp if you wish.
Use other raw engines etc.. Any finished version of Gimp does just fine with Raw flow. You know Gimp is the editor part right? You know darktable is one combo app if you want that; right? Some like Rawtherapee.
You can also run many other combo programs or mix and match. If you know what Raw is for then this is not a problem. Never has been on stable stuff. You may not be used to how nice it is on an open OS. But maybe I just don't what to look for. Use portable Gimp at work since I don't have admin rights to install software and am not in the Marketing unit so no PS due to high cost. This can be run off a USB stick and is very lightweight. As some people point out it is unintuitive if you've been brought up on PS.
But there is plenty of documentation and people on the web describing how to achieve that which can be done in PS.
I see it as a viable alternative for employees who need to manipulate photos and images for presentations and PR. Instead, it's intended to work in conjunction with DarkTable or RawTherapee. Except that feature is currently broken I really like my Linux machines, but once I veer away from the well worn path I seem to get down these rabbit holes of X needs Y needs Z needs A needs B needs C and C is not supported and B moved to Tahiti and retired I like a separate RAW editor and raster editor.
The parts are all from Adobe, no matter how you combine them. I like being able to choose my individual tools. I grabbed RawTherapee and DarkTable sudo apt-get install Either one would presumably develop NEF files for free, RawTherapee was fun to play with and seemed to do the job. DarkTable was not user friendly for someone who had never seen it before. Darktable takes a bit getting used to - but is IMO a wonderful program once you invested just a bit of time.
There's more that you can 'turn on'. If you struggle to achieve something with one module there's an alternative. Darktable is incredibly powerful. Beats out every other raw developer I have tried. But because of that it also has a bit of a learning curve - things which come pre-packaged in other raw developers are exposed in darktable and will need to be understood, not merely applied as a delivered preset. The flipside to this is that I have been able to do things in darktable which are very hard to do in other raw software.
For example when I work with underwater photos taken in available light. I agree that Darktable is very powerful and capable. So is Rawtherapee. These tools can provide great results but like any tool you need to know how to use them. Well worth the time spent IMO.
Partha has you covered. Not surprised. I'm still miffed that there is not an easy-to-install OSX version with raw support built in. This is great. I am very close to being able to free myself from Adobe. As soon as The Gimp has recordable actions, I'll have no need for Photoshop. Glad to see a new version and with so many major improvements.
Have you checked out Affinity Photo? I don't personally like Affinity Photo but I hear a lot of people find it a Photoshop replacement for their own needs. I use Windows 7 on my PC and my Notebook. Not ready for prime time. Windows 7 is a fully updated Microsoft OS--updates didn't stop in Look, GIMP 2. No, have not had it crash yet, but it needs work. File a bug report. If you use open source you are part of it. If don't like that just use something different.
Anyway I suspect that most developers use linux, so it is not that well tested under windows. There's a lot of other software licenses less dollars per than my CAD software that you'll need to purchase for me. The problem is that it's dialog boxes, and one usually can't copy and paste the contents--confirmed one can't. So someone has to take a screenshot of each error message, then close it to induce the next, then take another screenshot, then transcribe the error codes.
There's now a more than a year old serious failure of RawTherapee 5. RT's boards say nothing of it, and creating a thread doesn't lead to anything other than emails saying the whole forum has had updates to all sorts of unrelated issues. Now at least GIMP sort of appears to work, though I'm not sure that "highlights" works, but that's new, and I've not gone through everything new with 2.
Hope you have Admin Access to Windows 10, so at least you can get rid of the creepy spyware and kill auto OS updates. Do you know how to file a bug report? If you post it on the board it will probably end in nirvana. I use RT under linux and it works quite well. I think most developers use Linux too, so your platform is not that well tested.
I had some bug for my camera and the developers were very responsive. I found the origin myself in the source code and the fixed it. So I believe if you engage them in a polite way they will help you. I can't speak to that configuration, but it's telling that Ubuntu was not allowing RT 5 to install, while RT 5 has been out for more than a year. Regards, filing a bug report for GIMP 2. Ideally it would be better than that for Rawtherapee, which isn't a real process.
So, this "developed on Linux" is trying, it's not Darktable, which was Linux and Mac only until recently. That should have caught these error dialog boxes issue. Sadly there is no flatpak for RT, only darktable and Gimp. Otherwise you could easily install an up-to-date package. I compile RT myself butyou should ask the developer for a flatpak. This should make the life easier. In my opinion RT or DT should be bundled in the gimp flatpak. This would make the life of the user much easier.
My understanding is that a flatpak allows a "sandboxed" installation. I don't think lack of isolation is the problem with Windows 7 combined with RT 5. And to be complete, the first release of RT for Windows 7, doesn't have the disaster. X on Win 7 had a fairly big part of this RT 5 problem. But with RT 4.
X there was a work around. X ran correctly on my Windows 10 clone, and works nicely on my Ubuntu clone. But unless it's been updated in the last 10 weeks, Ubuntu doesn't allow one to install RT 5 yet. Rawtherapee is a disaster. Flatpak can be a sandbox but actually it's a package format for all linux distributions.
So flatpaks can be directly provided by the developers. You just got to find out how they are doing it. Mainly; talk of testing versions only shows what's coming soon. You could go get experimental versions of stuff. But if you complain how it's not stable then your just dumb. In the Linux world there is no one to tell you no; so don't just blow stuff up and then nag in the blogs about how Windows saves you time. Ask the folks with the wantacry ransomed personal data how much time that saved them and how much refund Microsoft and Adobe gave them back.
I'm trying to be nice. Run stable versions or start programming. The devs don't care. Oh and another thing. Between this unsecure close crap and open software surviving; it ain't gonna be the closed crap. What will you do if you're wrong? You are only buying regrets. We are moving into the future with every single free, comprehensive, automatic upgrade. You post is classic blame the user of ostensibly stable software on whatever system, and stability is not an issue I've had with GIMP 2.
While the eleven error boxes during start up remain. It always lags behind a bit. I'm using 2. Mostly I use it to resize images. It opens from Photos. It's great to see this version finally coming around, with quite a few things that are nice to have in this day and age. I did install 2. Once that's solved, I'll probably move on happily from 2. I do feel a little guilty every now and then; as a long-time software developer I would probably be able to contribute in some meaningful fashion to a project I do use several hours a week.
Very impressive! I've been a GIMP user for quite a while and this update is very welcome. While I'm glad there are some great free products out there, the most valuable thing I have right now is time. I certainly don't want to play around with another interface, getting addons to work, etc.
I use GIMP at work since I don't have PS, and indeed it takes a while to get used to the totally different interface and way of doing things. I'm learning by trial and error and somethings are easy and intuitive others not so much.
It would take a while to master it but I know PS so well I'm not so sure I want to become expert in another tool, but this is a big update and you cannot deny the features and all in a free product, simply amazing. The best news of the day! Has this been addressed or is everything now slow and clunky? I guess I'll wait for the Windows installers and find out for myself.
At this rate it'll be before they add non-destructive editing. I know it's free and volunteers work on it but in terms of practically being able to use it, the pace is glacial. Meanwhile Photoshop has added major features like content aware fill etc. Are you seriously bringing that up? Alex Prokoudine Yes, dude, I am seriously bringing that up. A less smooth transition results in banding…. Notice how the color transition, in the sky, from light blue to dark blue is jagged… this is banding.
Banding occurs when the transition from one color to the next is noticeable. It will look rough or jagged… this is due to not having enough colors to fill in the gaps! The solution is editing with more colors. When you do, your computer can fill the gaps for a smooth color transition that you can see. The difference is knowing when to use 8 bit vs. Like skies, a solid wall, or other surfaces with one prominent color.
Banding is also more likely to occur the more you edit the same image. This occurs due to stretching the tonal range of an image beyond the colors available. Which creates gaps or the banding.
Switching to 16 bit will introduce more colors to close the gaps. There are two solutions to overcome this in the future. Always use pro editing techniques by working non-destructively.
Instead, duplicate the layer for every type of edit you plan to do. This way, you can repeat the editing steps with a duplicate file at 16 bits. If you find most of your images result in banding, you may want to always convert to 16 bit from the start. This is due to JPGs being compressed when saved. However, you can still convert the 8 bit to 16 bit. When you do, the image will look exactly the same. The bigger the file, the slower GIMP becomes. At this time, GIMP 2. My name is Chris Parker and I run this place.
Well, my passion is to help you achieve your creative vision. With 30 years experience I believe I can help you do just that. The Precision submenu contains commands which let you change the precision of the image. The Precision options affect the precision and channel encoding used for storing the image in RAM during processing. Figure The precision at which image data is stored is a function of the bit depth 8-bit vs bit vs bit and whether the data is stored as integer data or floating point data.
The Precision menu offers the following precision options:. The Precision menu also allows you to choose a channel encoding for the image data.
Currently there are two choices:. Linear light , which encodes the channel data using the linear gamma TRC. Which Precision options should you choose? In a nutshell:. To take full advantage of GIMP's internal bit floating point processing, choose bit floating point precision and also choose the Linear light channel encoding.
If you are editing on a machine with limited RAM, or if you are editing very large images and layer stacks, consider using bit floating point or integer precision. If you want to take advantage of high bit depth image editing but you don't want to deal with floating point channel values, then use bit integer precision. This equals 24 bits per pixel in RGB images without an alpha channel transparency.
With an alpha channel, that equals 32 bits per pixel. Many high-end digital cameras produce image files with color depths above 8 bits per channel. If you import such an image into GIMP, you will lose some color information. By default, GIMP shows three windows. The toolbox, an empty image window with the menu bar, and a window containing several docked dialogs. The windows can be arranged on the screen as you need them.
If they are no longer needed, they can also be closed. Closing the image window when it is empty quits the application. In the default configuration, GIMP saves your window layout when you quit. Dialogs left open reappear when you next start the program. If there is currently no image open, the image window is empty, containing only the menu bar and the drop area, which can be used to open any file by dragging and dropping it there.
Every new, opened, or scanned image appears in its own window. If there is more than one open image, each image has its own image window. There is always at least one image window open. In Single-Window Mode, all image windows are accessible from a tab bar at the top of the window.
The menu bar at the top of the window provides access to all image functions. You can also access the menu by right-clicking the image or clicking the small arrow button in the top left corner of the rulers. Quit quits the application. With the items in the View menu, control the display of the image and the image window. New View opens a second display window of the current image.
Changes made in one view are reflected in all other views of that image. Alternate views are useful for magnifying a part of an image for manipulation while seeing the complete image in another view.
Adjust the magnification level of the current window with Zoom. When Fit Image in Window is selected, the image window is resized to fit the current image display exactly. The toolbox contains drawing tools, a color selector, and a freely configurable space for options pages. To find out what a particular tool does, hover over its icon.
At the very top, there is a drop area which can be used to open any image file by simply dragging and dropping it there. The current foreground and background color are shown in two overlapping boxes.
The default colors are black for the foreground and white for the background. Swap the foreground and background color with the bent arrow icon to the upper right of the boxes. Use the black and white icon to the lower left to reset the colors to the default.
Click the box to open a color selection dialog. Under the toolbox, a dialog shows options for the currently selected tool. If it is not visible, open it by double-clicking the icon of the tool in the toolbox. Layers shows the different layers in the current image and can be used to manipulate the layers. Information is available in Section Channels shows the color channels of the current image and can manipulate them.
Paths are a vector-based method of selecting parts of an image. They can also be used for drawing. Paths shows the paths available for an image and provides access to path functions. Undo shows a limited history of modifications made to the current image. Its use is described in Section Although GIMP can be a bit overwhelming for new users, most quickly find it easy to use after they work out a few basics. Crucial basic functions are creating, opening, and saving images. This opens a dialog in which you can make settings for the new image.
If desired, select a predefined setting called a Template. In the Image Size section, set the size of the image to create in pixels or another unit. Click the name of the unit to select another unit from the list of available units. Optional To set a different resolution, click Advanced Options , then change the value for Resolution. The default resolution of GIMP is usually 72 pixels per inch. This corresponds to a common screen display and is sufficient for most Web page graphics.
For print images, use a higher resolution, such as pixels per inch. For detailed information about image types, see Section In Fill With select the color the image is filled with. You can choose between Foreground Color and Background Color set in the toolbox, White or Transparency for a transparent image.
Transparency is represented by a gray checkerboard pattern. In the dialog that opens, select the desired file and click Open.
Saving an Image. The image is stored with all its properties in a lossless format. This includes, for example, layer and path information. This means that repeatedly opening and saving the image will neither degrade its quality nor how well it can be edited.
Exporting an image. The image is stored in a format in which some properties can be lost. For example, most image formats do not support layers. When exporting, GIMP will often tell you which properties will be lost and ask you to decide how to proceed.
Below is a selection of the most common file formats that GIMP can export to:. A common format for photographs and Web page graphics without transparency. Its compression method enables reduction of file sizes, but information is lost when compressing.
It may be a good idea to use the preview option when adjusting the compression level. Repeatedly opening a JPEG and then saving can quickly result in poor image quality. Although very popular in the past for graphics with transparency, GIF is less often used now. GIF is also used for animated images. The format can only save indexed images.
The file size can often be quite small if only a few colors are used. With its support for transparency, lossless compression, and good browser support, PNG is the preferred format for Web graphics with transparency. This enables smoother transitions from colored areas to transparent areas antialiasing. It also supports the full RGB color space which makes it usable for photos.
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